Curse

Phantom Flux · Jun 23, 2007, 06:08 AM // 06:08

I have learned that if the guild leader isn't active for 2 months, Guild Wars automatically demotes him/her and gives the spot to an officer or a member incase there are no officers. Anet is just plain wrong to create that system. It is the most lame thing Anet has come up with. If a player is not satisfied with the activity of a guild, just leave it and find something that suits you. Or make your own guild and be sure it is only made to justify your satisfaction and not others.

There may be a lot of players who love to player Guild Wars, such as myself, but it's incredibly disturbing if their is a rule that players have to actively obsessed 24/7. Guild leaders create their guilds for a variety of purposes and shouldn't be persecuted just because it's not in a PVP/GVG, PVE only, FFF (Fast Faction Farming) theme. Yes, you got players who have no lives and all they do is go on GW playing 24/7 as they complain about players around them who have a life. And these players who have a life, understands there is more to life than just playing GW. They work, they go out, they have things they might need to take care of and in hopes comes to play GW or any other hobby as a time to relax.

Some players create guilds just so they can have their own place to call home. A place where they can enjoy a fully loaded NPC hall and handle their gameplay when they want and how they want it without getting in the way of another player. Some players create guilds of members where they can keep their time flexible for on and off gameplay. It wouldn't be fair for a guild leader to have his own guild that he earned hard for to be taken away because he has a very tough job where the PCs he's around is too incompatible to play Guild Wars.

There should atleast be a system where the Guild leader chooses if he could hand the guild to someone else if they are away for quite some time or not.

Bazompora · Jun 23, 2007, 06:23 AM // 06:23

Can't even bother to log in once a month? You so deserve to be demoted then.
I'm glad to hear Arenanet has finally implicated this measure.

Phantom Flux · Jun 23, 2007, 06:34 AM // 06:34

I wasn't really talking about myself, but stop being thinking selfish or thinking this is your way to kiss up to Arenanet for every idea they come up with, even if it is just plain lame. Players and even Gaile Gray mentioned that Guild Wars would play on just about any pc. Not true. When someone plays guild wars for over a year and suddenly they can't for over 2 or 3 or just one month, then there must be something in their lives that happened, right? This computer I'm on right now, is toooooooooooooooo outdated to not prevent GW from crashing this pc. Yeah it's wack, but that's all the person of this pc can afford. Not his or her fault, that's just life for them at the moment.

I as a leader, has the right to have his guild anyway he wants it (as long it's legal). I farmed very hard to set the guild up including saving to buy all of the NPC servics, which includes the very pricey ones.

Guild Wars may be the only thing in your world, as you might live in some tiny box in Belgium, but there are players in this game that has more than just that.

You don't know what another player might be going through to have a such a situation occur. If you don't care, then this thread is definitely something you shouldn't be messing with.

jrk247 · Jun 23, 2007, 06:37 AM // 06:37

If the leader can't be on for a long period of time he should let one of his trusted officers take place as the leader while he's gone. If you actually have a guild with friends and trusted people you should have no problem. But it looks like the leader just created a guild pimp'd it out with full npc's and then recruited a bunch of random people that they didn't know. I'm sorry but if you aren't on for 2 months it really shouldn't matter that much if you lose the GH. Casual gamers aren't really guild leaders, they are just the member and maybe an officer. If you want a guild hall with all the NPC's and you don't want people to take it from you don't invite random people to your guild.

1 up and 2 down · Jun 23, 2007, 06:41 AM // 06:41

Well all I have to say is that if you are a guild leader you should not be gone for at least 2 months or more at a time. I can understand your problem but if you knew this was going to happen then maybe you shouldn't have been a guild leader or had a guild with members.

Urban Masterpiece · Jun 23, 2007, 06:42 AM // 06:42

/signed

No player should be subjected to losing his own guild. It's takes a lot of time and gold to make one. I've met a lot of players who couldn't be on the game for a while because of personal issues. I also own a social guild. Unlike most players, I understand there is no need to act like Hitler in a guild.

Guild Wars Idol · Jun 23, 2007, 06:53 AM // 06:53

/signed

Phantom has a major point. I'm not going to bring any names, but there is a friend/Guild leader who went idle for 4 to 5 months because she just got out of a terrible abusive relationship with her boyfriend. I guesed it was one of those moments where she didn't plan to leave and give notice to her members as she wanted, she just left his place. Her ex, obviously owned a pc she was able to play Guild Wars on. I know her, personally and let me just say, it was really bad. She moved to a family members house. Their pc couldn't play it and she couldn't afford a new one for quite sometime. She finally got the pc that allowed her to play GW. It's situations like this why Arenanet shouldn't think of something tasteless as automatic demoting.

Div · Jun 23, 2007, 09:28 AM // 09:28

You generally have a friend officer take over the role in your absence if for some reason you can't log on. If you have absolutely no one you can even call a friend on GW to trust, then you might as well make a 1-person guild and solve that problem.

Lonesamurai · Jun 23, 2007, 09:32 AM // 09:32

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Originally Posted by 1 up and 2 down

Well all I have to say is that if you are a guild leader you should not be gone for at least 2 months or more at a time. I can understand your problem but if you knew this was going to happen then maybe you shouldn't have been a guild leader or had a guild with members.

Sorry, but thats complete BS... My guild is multigame and, although I regularly log in to guild wars anyway, if I can't because i have to get things up and running in another game, which my guildies choose by the way, then I'm unhappy that this happens

Isileth · Jun 23, 2007, 11:09 AM // 11:09

What I think a lot of you are missing is the view from members and officers. If your guild leader goes inactive (especially if there are no officers) then the guild is practially dead. This way it gets given to an officer, and by the fact they are an officer that shows you have trust in them.

If you recruit random players and promote them to officer then its your fault if it goes to someone who wont give you GL back when you return. Make sure you know you can trust people before making them officers and this suddenly becomes a very helpful feature to the survivial of guilds.

william1975 · Jun 23, 2007, 11:20 AM // 11:20

I can agree that there are some reasons why a guild leader may be absent for 2 months without the ability to tell any trusted officer in the guild and hand over leadership, however I do think that this will not be very prevalent.

While this may be irksome for those that have no abilty to prevent their absence I would think there are many guilds where the leader just stops playing, and in those situations if you are in a established guild with benifits and many friends why shoudl the officers and members have to go out and get another?

I don't believe that this is an issue where Anet should rely on guild members informing them that a leader is inactive, as this could lead to abuse of that. 2 months is a long time, and if someone is absent for that time then a demotion is not unreasonable, in a previous guild if someone was inactive for 3 months they were removed from the guild, unless they stated they would be away for good reasons. The vast majority of people would be able to hand over leadership in most cases, obviously there will always be a few cases where there is no way of handing over control, however those in those guilds should not have to suffer for it, and ths would not be aproblem if thsoe who had made the guild had reliable officers and members.

The only way i see a problem here is if someone had created a guild and pulled in people that they didnt like or trust and made them into officers

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Bazompora · Jun 23, 2007, 11:52 AM // 11:52